Comments on: Best Lyme and Zika Prevention for Hiking https://www.adventurealan.com/best-lyme-and-zika-prevention-hiking/ The Ultimate Guide to Lightweight Backpacking and Backcountry Adventure Travel Wed, 01 Aug 2018 01:02:32 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.8.2 By: Cheri https://www.adventurealan.com/best-lyme-and-zika-prevention-hiking/#comment-32239 Fri, 04 May 2018 11:37:13 +0000 https://aland8.sg-host.com/?p=7399#comment-32239 I sent my clothes to Insect Shield and they treated them for me. It is good for up to 70 washings. I didn’t want to deal with the permetherin myself. They are really helpful people, answering all my questions and helping me understand how it works once applied to my clothes. Anyone can google them to get to their web site.

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By: Alan Dixon https://www.adventurealan.com/best-lyme-and-zika-prevention-hiking/#comment-31545 Wed, 02 May 2018 17:54:45 +0000 https://aland8.sg-host.com/?p=7399#comment-31545 In reply to Jeff Monroe.

Yes Jeff, the Railriders stuff is really nice — super well thought out design. The Ex Officio stuff has the advantage of a much larger distribution channel. This makes it a lot easier for people to get. Especially people who will only buy from larger retailers like REI, etc.

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By: Jeff Monroe https://www.adventurealan.com/best-lyme-and-zika-prevention-hiking/#comment-31522 Wed, 02 May 2018 16:16:17 +0000 https://aland8.sg-host.com/?p=7399#comment-31522 Ex Officio shirts are heavier and warmer than Railriders shirts, in my experience. I am out on the trail a lot, and have been using Railriders gear for over five years, all year long in Virginia. I cringe when I see folks in shorts on the A.T. anymore – the Railriders Eco-Mesh pant is the best summer protection available! And it is pre-treated, so I don’t have to mess as much with the chemicals. I now only need to spray shoes, socks and hat.

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By: Alan Dixon https://www.adventurealan.com/best-lyme-and-zika-prevention-hiking/#comment-26313 Tue, 06 Feb 2018 14:52:03 +0000 https://aland8.sg-host.com/?p=7399#comment-26313 In reply to Kerry Michel.

Hi Kerry. Permethrin doesn’t harm fabrics. You are confusing it with DEET that can damage some fabrics. Also note that Picaradin works better than DEET, has no smell, and does not damage clothing and plastics.

The permethrin treatment works as a repellent and also does not damage fabrics. (Altho I wouldn’t treat a sleeping bag with it. Not sure what the purpose would be since the sleeping bag is insect-proof.) I would treat a hammock tho and have done so. Permethrin clothing slowly releases molecules of permethrin into the air which the insects sense and then avoid the source (you wearing the clothing). Yes it works at the molecular level as a repellent.

Note that permethrin is an insecticide (it’s a synthetic version of pyrethrin which is a natural insecticide from chrysanthemums). But at the levels used in clothing not enough is released to be toxic to the person wearing it or insects. At these low (molecular) levels it again works as a repellent. The insect senses there is poison in the area and avoids it. Hope this helps. Warmest, -alan

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By: Kerry Michel https://www.adventurealan.com/best-lyme-and-zika-prevention-hiking/#comment-26281 Mon, 05 Feb 2018 08:37:12 +0000 https://aland8.sg-host.com/?p=7399#comment-26281 I have heard people say not to get permethrin treated clothing near ultralight quilts (that have the delicate super light shell fabric) because the component in the spray is very hard on the fabrics. Is this true or have you heard this before? Also, does permethrin kill the little buggers or just repel them? Thanks!

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By: Alan Dixon https://www.adventurealan.com/best-lyme-and-zika-prevention-hiking/#comment-21749 Mon, 19 Jun 2017 01:00:14 +0000 https://aland8.sg-host.com/?p=7399#comment-21749 In reply to Gert King.

Indeed Gert…

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By: Gert King https://www.adventurealan.com/best-lyme-and-zika-prevention-hiking/#comment-21727 Sun, 18 Jun 2017 01:58:51 +0000 https://aland8.sg-host.com/?p=7399#comment-21727 Pay attention It could happen to you…….

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By: Alan Dixon https://www.adventurealan.com/best-lyme-and-zika-prevention-hiking/#comment-20436 Tue, 25 Apr 2017 23:04:47 +0000 https://aland8.sg-host.com/?p=7399#comment-20436 In reply to manuel.

Manuel,
Low to mid pressure should be OK. Higher pressure adding a wind shirt would be ideal. Best, -alan

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By: manuel https://www.adventurealan.com/best-lyme-and-zika-prevention-hiking/#comment-20423 Tue, 25 Apr 2017 11:24:39 +0000 https://aland8.sg-host.com/?p=7399#comment-20423 Hi Alan

I wonder if you have any experience with the NF TKA 100 wt fleece and mosquitoes? Is this one thick enough, so that mosquitoes can’t bite through?

Best, manuel

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By: Alan Dixon https://www.adventurealan.com/best-lyme-and-zika-prevention-hiking/#comment-19904 Wed, 05 Apr 2017 15:27:11 +0000 https://aland8.sg-host.com/?p=7399#comment-19904 In reply to Mike Kelly.

Mike, Alison and I recently went to trek and sleep for days in Columbian Jungle with risk of both Yellow Fever and Malaria. And we used the best/most protective approach per this article. Our primary defense was full body coverage with permethrin treated clothing [really, no other alternative protection comes close]. And secondarily using Picaridin Lotion for all exposed skin. We might re-apply it midday if we’ve sweated a lot or have been swimming. Note: we draw the line at wearing a bug head net when hiking. It’s too hot and annoying, and if you are moving there is less risk of being bitten by bugs. If the bugs are very bad, we might still wear a treated head net morning and evening in camp (I’ve had mosquitoes so bad it was hard not to breathe them in). And we usually bring a second set of permethrin shirt and pants for wearing in camp so we can wash the sweaty clothes from the day and let them dry overnight.

So in summary, this is what would Alison and I would do if we were to go to Africa or the jungles of South America. And I belive it is exactly in keeping with the CDC’s recommendations for maximum protection for travelers, so maybe you could cite that when you give people advice. Best, -alan

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